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Camp Cope on How Philadelphia, Florence and the Machine, ‘A Star Is Born’, and Extra Impressed Their New Album ‘Working With the Hurricane’


Ever since forming in 2015, Camp Cope have embraced openness and vulnerability as instruments of empowerment. The Australian trio’s first two albums, 2016’s self-titled debut and 2018’s Easy methods to Socialise and Make Pals, are fascinating information marked by a novel emotional and social consciousness, with vocalist-guitarist Georgia Maq’s sincere, biting lyrics bursting with each anger and empathy as they weave the non-public and the political. Additionally they function paperwork of the band’s development – as musicians, as associates, as folks – studying tips on how to navigate and discover peace on the earth round them. It’s clear that this has been the aim from the beginning: “All of it comes all the way down to the information that we’re gonna die/ Discover consolation in that or be scared for the remainder of your life,” Maq sang on Camp Cope’s ‘West Aspect Story’. “So I sing and I scream and I strum and I attempt to assist out.”

The band’s third LP, Working With the Hurricane, out in the present day, is the closest they’ve come to reaching that place of consolation, one that actually appears like house. It’s additionally their richest and most rewarding effort to this point. Though it opens with the traces “I’ve been seeing my very own demise, I’ve been laying down, I’ve been taking place giving strangers head,” it takes you on a journey that ends with super optimism – as bassist Kelly-Daybreak Hellmrich places it, “it’s like holding your hand by means of the uncomfortableness.” Loads of that confidence comes all the way down to the group changing into extra attuned to their dynamic capabilities, increasing their palette and incorporating extra harmonies whereas sounding extra relaxed – and collectively – than ever earlier than. Not solely does Maq play piano and sing on the closing monitor, she encourages everybody else to do the identical, and the second’s resonance is abruptly amplified: “You’ll be able to change and so can I,” she repeats because the music builds to a cathartic finale. What you’d count on to be a sluggish, quiet conclusion abruptly appears like a shiny new begin.

We caught up with Camp Cope’s Kelly-Daybreak Hellmrich to speak about how Philadelphia, seeing Florence and the Machine dwell, A Star Is Born, local weather change, and extra impressed their new album.


Are you able to discuss what Philadelphia means to you and its relationship to the album?

It’s been an necessary a part of our band from the start. The primary large reveals we did was with Fashionable Baseball who’re from Philadelphia, and that launched us to the viewers there but in addition a number of different bands. Once we first began, considered one of our essential influences was Cayetana, who had been a band from Philadelphia. They’re three girls, and I can’t discover a number of bands I can examine our sound to, however they’re one. Once we bought there and performed our first reveals there, it actually felt like going house. And that’s such an necessary feeling whenever you’re on tour since you are so far-off from house, particularly whenever you’re in Australia and also you journey throughout the opposite aspect of the world from our island. Philadelphia grew to become someplace that felt extra like our music scene than Australia did – we’ve at all times felt possibly a bit misplaced or like we didn’t fairly slot in with a number of bands in Australia, however to go throughout the opposite aspect of the world and slot in there and really feel like we’re a Philadelphia band, despite the fact that we grew up so far-off. That’s why initially we needed to do the album there as a result of we had finished the opposite two in Melbourne and we needed it to be utterly completely different, and it actually holds an necessary half in all of our hearts. But it surely didn’t work out that manner. I really feel like there’s nonetheless Philadelphia within the album although, and we’re actually excited to ultimately carry it there once more.

In what methods do you’re feeling like there’s nonetheless Philadelphia within the album?

I believe how a lot we’ve grown as a band we owe so much to our mentors in Philadelphia. There’s been a lot of them who’ve homed us and and made us imagine in ourselves as musicians. We’re extra certain of ourselves and that’s all to those group of people that mentored us and believed in us. After which additionally, there’s one track, ‘The Screaming Planet’, and on the finish, you say, “I at all times come again,” and that’s about Melbourne. “I’ve been world wide, and I at all times come again right here.” I really feel prefer it’s like since you discover house in different places, however then you definitely come again to love your actual house. I consider America so much in that track.

Seeing Florence and the Machine Dwell at Laneway Pageant in 2018

I really feel like the arrogance that you simply’re speaking about ties into the subsequent inspiration, which is seeing Florence and the Machine dwell at Laneway Pageant in New Zealand.

Yeah, it was our second time taking part in Laneway Pageant. The primary time we had been very younger and it was our first-ever pageant, so the second time we had a bit extra confidence however we had been nonetheless looking for the place we slot in and who we had been. We had been nonetheless growing our sound at that time – we knew we would like it to be greater than what we already had been. We’re so shut, the three of us, musically we’re actually tapped into one another, but in addition emotionally we’re like sisters, we’re household. And it was a really scary [collaborating with] different folks within the writing course of and taking part in dwell. We’re so scared to interrupt out of that. I keep in mind Georgia and I had been standing on the aspect watching Florence and the Machine, and I don’t know if you happen to’ve ever had the chance to look at them – it’s actually a band I used to be conscious of however by no means sought out to go see dwell or take heed to a lot, however the manufacturing was so attractive. You see all these rock bands in a day after which this, like, efficiency artwork. The lead singer simply utterly transforms the stage into a unique world. Her vocal vary is phenomenal, however her confidence in the best way that she controls the stage and the sound was so large – it simply didn’t really feel like a rock live performance. And we had been similar to, “Wow, we would like an even bigger sound.”

We had been so nervous to play music. It’s so humorous, I used to be on nervousness treatment for more often than not we needed to go play, and to look at somebody simply go up there and like, they made their very own world on the stage. It was actually inspiring. And I do know that that was a giant turning level for like, why can’t we do a giant manufacturing? Why can’t we broaden? Not possibly to that degree the place we’ve bought like a harp and fireworks or no matter [laughs], however simply that possibly we should always broaden, possibly we should always develop and transfer a bit out of our consolation zone so we will create one thing a bit greater.

Vocally, I additionally see Georgia stretching her vocals extra on this album. Did you see her taking inspiration from Florence in that manner as effectively?

Yeah, Florence was an enormous half. I do know that she’s actually impressed by them. Through the second album, Georgia bought nodules on her vocal cords. She needed to get surgical procedure and there was a degree the place we really didn’t know if she was going to have the ability to sing once more. It was very emotional, very scary. The surgical procedure labored, however she needed to study to sing a unique manner as a result of she was damaging her vocal cords. So she did, she went to vocal coaching and simply utterly modified the best way that she sings, and you may hear the distinction from the previous albums to the brand new ones. And I reckon each evening on our final American tour, she would sing Florence and the Machine within the bathe. [laughs] You can hear her listening to her on her telephone, and he or she would simply be belting. And you’ll hear her working it out, and at first it wasn’t as excellent as was however then in direction of the tip she actually bought there. And you’ll hear the inspiration I believe vocally within the album, undoubtedly.

One second I needed to single out is the nearer, ‘Sing Your Coronary heart Out’. Particularly as a result of a lot of the album revolves across the feeling of isolation, that appears like such a second of connection to me. Did it really feel like that whenever you had been bringing the track to life?

Yeah. I keep in mind the primary time Georgia despatched it, I used to be similar to, “Oh, wow.” [laughs] I used to be driving with my accomplice and he or she despatched the demo of her on piano. And it’s at all times very particular when Georgia performs piano – she’s finished it since she was a toddler, however she simply by no means introduced it to the band till this album. I keep in mind the expansion of that track, she at all times needed it to be a very large end. A giant criticism from different folks but in addition us was that our final two albums had been simply not very dynamic, and so we took that on board. The opposite two albums completed with a track Georgia simply by herself, in order that one, we needed it to possibly be like, “Oh, right here’s one other track Georgia simply by herself,” after which increase, it’s completely different. [laughs]

However lyrically, I believe it’s the complete cease of the album: you are able to do issues that make you uncomfortable, you are able to do issues that you simply may suppose are flawed, that possibly are flawed, however that doesn’t imply you’re a nasty particular person. And it’s additionally commentary on a number of stuff that’s occurring on the earth as effectively. Does doing dangerous issues make you a nasty particular person? Is there room to develop? Can somebody change? Should you don’t imagine that somebody can change, what’s the purpose? We’ve modified so much from the final album to the place we’re at now, and you may hear that. And I believe there was a little bit of concern of like, folks noticed this as this one factor, is it going to be jarring for them to see us as this different? So there’s a lot of themes about change – it’s private and musical, I suppose.

Double Texting

Double texting is particularly referenced in two separate songs [‘Blue’ and ‘Jealous’]. Was there a second the place you realized it’s a recurring factor that’s associated to larger themes on the album?

Nicely, it’s extraordinarily Georgia, and it’s really a giant theme of our band. Me and Georgia are fairly dangerous – Georgia’s the worst, like she is going to textual content you consistently and if you happen to don’t reply, her world will crumble. However Thomo [bassist Sarah Thompson] is at all times like, “Are you able to guys put what you need to say in a single large textual content?” And it’s additionally only a metaphor for, like, not being sure, proper? Not being sure about your self, a couple of scenario, which I believe is what a couple of of the songs nod in direction of. Unsure if you happen to’re doing the proper factor, unsure if you happen to’re doing one thing that may make different folks such as you. After which additionally being susceptible and being like, it’s okay to double textual content. As a result of why is {that a} rule? [laughs] You already know, that’s a factor that you simply shouldn’t do as a result of it makes you look a sure manner, however if you wish to say it, simply say it. If you wish to ship one other textual content, simply do it. However yeah, we observed when it got here up a few occasions. [laughs] We’re like, “Oh, the double texting album.”

A Star Is Born

What are your recollections of watching the movie with Georgia?

We had been residing collectively on the time. We used to dwell in Georgia’s condo. It’s a very small condo, it was us and our cat. And the film got here out, we went and noticed it, and we bawled our eyes out. After which we watched it one other two or thrice within the cinema, we couldn’t get sufficient of it. We didn’t cry a lot for the love story of it, it’s simply that journey of loving music, wanting it to be your complete life, absolutely the excessive of music being your complete life and discovering success in music, after which the low, whenever you cease or when it doesn’t go in a manner that’s wholesome for you. And that query of, is it wholesome for you? As a result of we watched the demise of their relationship and their life, and whenever you’re a musician or I’m certain any artist would watch that and be like, it’s so true: one thing that provides you the most important excessive gives you the most important low.

After which the songs – Girl Gaga is one other large affect to Georgia’s vocals. I keep in mind the primary evening, I believe we listened to the soundtrack within the automobile, we went straight house and I heard her the remainder of the evening taking part in songs on our keyboard. So I believe that she was tremendous impressed by that soundtrack as effectively.

You mentioned that it’s not typically that she is going to write on the keyboard.

When folks would discover out that she performed piano, like if there was a piano at a venue and he or she simply hopped on for enjoyable, we’d be like, “Yeah, she’s a manner higher piano participant than she is a guitarist.” [laughs] As a result of she’s been taking part in since she was a toddler. However we had been caught in that guitar, bass, and drums – if she will get on piano, who’s going to play guitar, what are we going to do? That doesn’t work. However then she branched out and he or she was beginning to write songs on piano. There have been discussions in regards to the album for the 2 years or so we labored on it, which was, “Perhaps we get this particular person to come back in and play piano,” and we’re like, “Why don’t you do it? You’re actually good at it.” And you’ll hear that, I believe, particularly in ‘Working With the Hurricane’, as a result of she sang and performed that on the similar time, and it’s phenomenal. The piano is loopy in that in that track. However I believe that’s my first reminiscence of Georgia sort of busting out the piano and writing, which is why I needed to place that in there.

You clearly had an emotional response to the movie, however was it additionally one thing that you simply additionally mentioned in relation to your individual lives or the band?

Completely, we talked about it at size, for weeks if not months. I imply, we’re individuals who have had relationships on the highway, whether or not it’s having a relationship with somebody again house or having relationships with different musicians, so it does hit in that manner. But additionally, simply how onerous it’s to navigate care if you end up a travelling musician, and I believe that’s what actually hit us – look after your self and the folks round you that you simply love. As a result of it’s a really onerous profession in that sense. It’s important to make a number of sacrifices, and I believe the most important is relationships, and never simply romantic ones.

Hugh McDonald

The album is called after a track Georgia’s late father, Hugh McDonald, wrote for his band Redgum. How did you attain that call?

I believe when she wrote the track ‘Working With the Hurricane’, she introduced it to us and he or she was like, “My dad has a track referred to as ‘Working With the Hurricane’, and I by no means actually favored that track very a lot, however I actually favored the title.” She’s like, “To me, working with the hurricane appears like such an emotional phrase. It stirs up this sense.” So she needed to put in writing that track, after which the track, we knew from the very starting that it was at all times going to be the principle single. Once we had been discussing album titles, we had been similar to, “Let’s identify it Working With the Hurricane.” It’s one thing I believe that describes our complete expertise being in a band, and it’s that nod to Hugh, which was actually necessary.

He was within the studio for our first album, and he actually supported us all. It wasn’t nearly his daughter being within the band. He would message Thomo, like, “Because of this I believe you’re a terrific drummer, this factor you do stylistically,” after which he’d come to me and he’d be like, “This stuff that you simply do as a bass participant, they’re superb.” And he simply actually believed in what we’re combating for as effectively. I believe my final reminiscence of Hugh, I believe the final time I noticed him – he was sick within the hospital, however they’d let him come out to look at us win a music award in Melbourne. So he bought all dressed up and he got here and watched us win this music award. And never lengthy after, he handed away. He’s crucial to us as a band and as folks. We wouldn’t be right here with out him, undoubtedly.

Local weather Change

What sort of conversations did you’ve got about local weather change, and the way did it inform the album?

It was pre-COVID that we had these emotions of like, the world is ending and we’re making music. I believe lots of people have alluded it to the band taking part in music because the Titanic sinks. You get very in your head, like, “The world is ending, what are we doing to make it higher? I’m simply making music, is that this doing something that’s value something?” That was one thing that we talked about so much. I imply, we tried to do small issues, like no considered one of our touring get together has disposable drink bottles, everybody has a drink bottle or there’s a jug of water and cups. Going to venues and being like, “Simply don’t put straws out.” And most of the people had been like, “Okay, so no straws tonight on the venue.” We’re at all times attempting to consider this. After which I believe ‘The Screaming Planet’ is a track that feels very influenced by local weather change, however not solely simply within the title, however the general really feel of the track. Additionally, working with the hurricane, that phrase is all being like: Every little thing round you is uncontrollable, what are you able to do? You need to make artwork, and simply attempt to do small, tiny adjustments, you understand, like Frightened Rabbit, make small, tiny adjustments inside the mess and the hurricane and also you’re on the screaming planet and all this stuff are occurring – let’s attempt to discover the sweetness in that. After which COVID occurred and it grew to become much more actual. It’s sort of loopy to pay attention again, particularly to ‘The Screaming Planet’, and take into consideration the way it was written earlier than COVID.

Gang of Youths’ Dave Le’aupepe

He’s a really charismatic frontman, and I can see how he would have been an inspiration in eager to take issues in a extra theatrical path.

Yeah, undoubtedly. He will get on a stage and he utterly transforms it, simply in that manner that Florence does. However we did get to know him on a private degree. The primary time I met Dave was at our first-ever pageant, the primary day of our first-ever pageant, and I used to be sitting there consuming lunch with our guitar tech. And he walked over and he mentioned, “Hey, I used to be listening to” I believe our first album had simply come out – “I used to be listening to your stuff because the first track got here out on Bandcamp. And I simply needed to say I’m a very large fan.” And I used to be like, “Oh, thanks! Who’re you?” I didn’t know if he was crew or – I used to be like, “What do you do?” And he’s like, “Oh, look, that’s not necessary. I simply needed to come back say that I really like your band.” And I used to be like, “Oh, cool. Thanks, man. That’s very nice.” After which he walked away and our guitar tech was like, “That was the singer of Gang of Youths!” And I used to be like, “Who’s that?” After which he was like, “You should go watch them, they’re actually good.” After which we went and watched them, and clearly, they had been superb. That was our first introduction to Dave. However from that, he simply would at all times ship us messages and help. At that time, we had been actually younger and we didn’t have that many individuals like that in our lives. That’s why we’re actually grateful for those who had been there from the start.

After which Go Farther in Lightness, that album modified my life. It’s so lovely. And it’s that factor: it talks about uncomfortable issues, but it surely holds your hand by means of it. You are feeling such as you’re going by means of these painful, uncomfortable issues, however then they’re like, there’s magnificence in that, there’s development in that, and we’re gonna carry you thru it. [laughs] And we’re gonna really feel it collectively. Me and Georgia had been actually impressed by that album. We needed to make an album that makes you’re feeling like that.

We went and noticed them on the Discussion board and that’s when the piano comes again in. We had been sitting up on the high, and it was us and and a few of the guys’ wives, we had our personal platform. And he simply will get on the market with the piano by himself, and you would really feel the emotion of a few thousand folks and a piano and somebody with a really highly effective voice and a very necessary story to inform. We had been actually impressed by that, and I believe you possibly can hear that in little moments within the album too.

I keep in mind as soon as I offered my guitar for a bus ticket or one thing, and he was like, “Don’t promote your guitars, they’re gonna be in a museum in the future. You guys, you don’t perceive how necessary your band is.” And to listen to that from somebody that writes music that I’m such a fan of…

Have you ever had any interactions round this album or their album that simply got here out?

No, we haven’t seen them since – they had been on that Laneway tour once we noticed Florence, they had been on our first-ever Laneway after which on our second one as effectively. However as a result of Dave moved to London after which COVID, and he’s not likely on social media in any respect. He’s a really large recluse. However I’m to see what he thinks of it. However yeah, due to COVID we misplaced contact with a number of our associates who dwell internationally. It’s been onerous.

My accomplice is Samoan, and so I launched him to Gang of Youths as a result of clearly there’s a lot about tradition and his father within the newest album. And I keep in mind listening to Dave discuss – the demise of his father was round, I believe it should have been one of many final occasions all of us hang around as bands. They had been doing a present in Sydney the identical evening we had been taking part in the Opera Home, and I keep in mind that was a very onerous time. To listen to that labored out within the album is traditional Dave, and I really like how he does that. I do know him and Georgia relate on that degree too, they actually work out their very own trauma by means of the music. And it helps others, too.

This interview has been edited and condensed for readability and size.

Camp Cope’s Working With the Hurricane is out now by way of Run for Cowl.




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